The Anarcho-Leninist
Debate on the State
Do you have ideas or do ideas have you?
The debate question • In the period immediately following
a successful mass uprising against the bourgeoisie,
should the form (or forms) of organization adopted by the proletariat
to secure its ultimate liberation be understood to be a state?

Part 1 • Ben Seattle • October 5, 2002
Without the goal of a state machine
controlled by the working class
we might as well proclaim that bourgeois rule
will last until the stars refuse to shine

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